LET’S WELCOME
AUTHOR
OF:
Rad-Reader: Was this a story that you had been wanting to
write for some time?
Michael: It was. I grew up in Ridgewood/Bushwick during this
time frame. My experience with the Mafia was much like the character, Paddy
Durr’s. The “Pizza Connection” case was an interesting platform from which to
launch the novel.
Rad-Reader: Were there many rewrites until you were
satisfied with it?
Michael: Of course. I think it
was Hemmingway who said, “Edit, revise, re-write until you can’t bear to look
at it again. Then it’s done.”
Rad-Reader: I am sure you had friends read it first, were
they able to give you honest opinions?
Michael: I belong to several writing groups whose members are
my beta readers. While they are as invested in my success as I am in theirs’,
they aren’t cheerleaders. I get great insight from them. My first beta reader,
however, is my wife, Janet. She is an educated reader and a former police
officer. Her ear for genuine dialogue and eye for a plausible plot is well-honed.
When writing crime, having an additional expert opinion is invaluable.
Rad-Reader: How did you decide on 1964, in going back in
time with Butchie’s character?
Michael: I wanted to incorporate the Vietnam War and the
Troubles in Northern Ireland as settings and plot devices. The other factor is
that the case the novel is based upon spanned the sixties and seventies. The
math for my protagonists’ ages needed to add up.
Rad-Reader: I liked how you had the two grandmothers
arguing over sauces and gravies. I am
guessing it is more of an East Coast thing since I only heard it when visiting
relatives in N.Y.?
Michael: Obviously, I grew up with many Italian friends. The
sauce/gravy argument is more like a holy war in New York, and it has been waged
since the first two Italians emigrated here. Growing up, I found it hysterical.
It didn’t matter what you called it. It was delicious either way.
Rad-Reader: I got the whole setup at the beginning with
Butchie, ’79 killing – Bonnano family – Brooklyn Knickerbocker was that your
idea from the start?
Michael: The murder of Carmine Galante, in Joe and Mary’s
Italian Restaurant was one of the most famous Mob rub-outs in history. There
has long been a rumor that the cigar found protruding from his mouth was put
there by a uniform cop in the 83rd Precinct. As Galante was the
architect of the Pizza Connection, his murder had to be a flash-point for the
novel. By writing it the way I did, I gave the reader something to think about
Butchie’s character—or lack of it.
Rad-Reader: What was the process like coming up with
Butchie’s family life – the fight – Vietnam – Joining the force – getting married,
did you have this all planned out ahead of time?
Michael: I grew up mentored by a lot of cops in that
neighborhood and time frame. The ones I admired and hoped to emulate were war
veterans and family men. Many of them survived violent strife-torn childhoods,
much like me. So, it was inevitable my characters would mirror that.
Rad-Reader: Was your depiction of staff sergeant Melvin
Deforest based on anyone (singular)?
Having been around Marines my entire childhood, he reminded me of some.
Michael: Some of the cops who taught me the job as a rookie
police officer were Marines. Melvin Deforest is a composite and an omage to
those great cops. I threw in the Georgia accent for my own amusement.
Rad-Reader: Your use of “Mustache Pete’s” “guinea” “Mafia”
There are many others how and when did you know when to add them to the story?
Michael: Mafia is a common term. I use it to clarify the organized
crime affiliation of the characters. The other terms usually appear as
dialogue. They are used most often as pejoratives consistent with the
characters uttering them. They were in common usage at that time and say a lot
more about the speaker than the author.
Rad-Reader: Was Monica’s character always part of your, original idea for the book or did you change it in any way?
Michael: Always. It takes true, innocent, selfless love to
bring out the better angels of a person’s nature. I knew from the start that I
needed Monica. She completes Butchie’s character. She redeems him in a way he
couldn’t do without her.
Rad-Reader: Had Butchie’s time in Vietnam and has your description always part of your original idea?
Michael: Yes. I wanted the cauldron of war to help form and
illustrate Butchie’s loyalty to his brother Marines and society as a whole. The
war was a great device to show his willingness for self-sacrifice to save
others.
Rad-Reader: Was your Eddie Curran character from Belfast
always going to be from Ireland?
Michael: Yes. As an Irish American, I grew up with a
fascination for the IRA. They were celebrated as freedom fighters and elevated
to the status of folk heroes. After much independent study and research, I came
to understand they were little more than a parasitic organized crime syndicate,
no better than the Mafia. Mario Puzo glorified
the Mafia in his books. I don’t do that. I expose them both as the miscreant
thugs they are.
Rad-Reader: How did you
even come up with that entire story of Eddie in Ireland before he came over?
Michael: I created Eddie. Then I added the internecine war
between the IRA, the RUC, and the Orange Order and put Eddie in the middle of
it. Add a tragic love story and you’ve got some fertile ground upon which to
create.
Rad-Reader: I like your characters Mickey and Bunny which
really added to the story. How did you
come up with them and their story?
Michael: Mickey is based upon a real cop I knew. I wanted the bunny
to be Jewish to explore the ingrained prejudice of the time—by everyone. That the
love between the Irish cop and the Jewish nurse could flourish in that most
inhospitable environment made them heroes, capable of shaping the lives of the
troubled youth of Bushwick.
Rad-Reader: I felt at times that Butchie reminded me of
Joseph Petrosino or am I just reading to much into the character?
Michael: They shared the same motivations and the same
enemies. Most Italian cops and detectives I worked within the NYPD had the
same ingrained contempt for the Mafia. They regarded them as an embarrassment. Joe
Petrosino is regarded as almost a saint in the NYPD. That you can see a
parallel between him and Butchie I regard as high praise.
Rad-Reader: Did you have an idea of how and where you
were going to end the story when you began?
Michael: No, but I keep trying to end my stories unhappily, and
I can’t seem to do it. I have to leave at least a little hope at the end, even
if Butchie and Eddie can’t quite achieve everything they wanted.
Rad-Reader: Did you find yourself having to edit parts
out of your story or has it remained the same for the most all the way through?
Michael: Actually, the
opposite is true. I have a follower (now a dear friend) who is a retired narcotics
undercover detective. He was shot in the chest in 1973during a 2-kilo cocaine
buy. He wanted me to tell his story, so I wrote him into the book. His name and
character in the book are Angelo Florio. His story was extraordinary and gave
the novel a much richer texture.
Rad-Reader: Did it take you a long time to get this book
published?
Michael: No. I’m an
independent author. I self-publish through Amazon and Ingram Spark. Traditional
publishing turned me off. They don’t do anything for you and they keep more
than half of your royalties. This way, I’m still doing everything myself, but I
keep all the money. Traditional publishing is a dying species for that very
reason.
Rad-Reader: Did you have to keep a notebook or list of
all the different characters and nicknames as you went along?
Michael: Not for this novel. I
wrote the first draft in three weeks when I was confined to the couch after tearing
my Achilles tendon. For my upcoming books, I not only keep a character journal but an outline as well.
Rad-Reader: Was there a favorite spot that you enjoy writing and found it made it easier to write?
Michael: Since I started writing after retiring from the NYPD,
I have commandeered my kitchen table. I’m presently building an office in the
house where I will be writing in the future.
Rad-Reader: What song or songs best describes your
characters or the book as a whole?
“Roses
are Red – Bobby Vinton”
“Danny
Boy – Johnny Cash”
“Mambo
Italiano – Dean Martin”
Michael: The streets of New York - The Wolftones.
I love the Dean Martin suggestion.
Rad-Reader: If you could write any other genre what would
you like to try to say you did?
Michael: I’m presently hashing out an idea for a historical
romance novel.
Rad-Reader: What is your favorite genre of movies?
Michael: Thrillers; Crime, military, political/spy, doesn’t
matter. I’m in.
Rad-Reader: What line of work did you do before you decide
to start writing? Did you do it while
you were writing if you did, did you tell your fellow workers?
Michael: I was a homicide detective in the NYPD. While I didn’t
have the time to creatively write while working, my investigative reports had a
literary flourish. It used to drive my supervisors crazy. But I found that if I
told myself a narrative story about my investigation, I would remember it
better. It served me well in my career. Everyone I worked with predicted I
would go on to write. The fact that I was a voracious reader no doubt gave it
away.
Rad-Reader: What does your family think about your career
in the writing world? Do you have any
other budding writers coming up?
Michael: My wife, Janet, loves my new career. She’s my greatest
supporter. My kids think it’s cool, but they’re millennials. If it isn’t in the
context of a meme, they lose interest.
Rad-Reader: What is your next project and when is it
coming out?
Michael: My next novel, Burnt to a Crisp, is a Detective Paddy
Durr novel. The sequel to Shot to Pieces, I expect to pre-release it on Amazon electronically
on November 1st. Full release on December 1st.
Rad-Reader: Where can our readers buy your books? Links
Michael: My books are available wherever books are sold,
however, Amazon is obviously the easiest and quickest way to get them. Here are
the links;
Shot to Pieces:
13 Stories-Fractured, Twisted
& Put Away Wet:
A Reckoning in Brooklyn:
Rad-Reader: Where can our readers find you on the
Web? Links
Michael,
I really enjoyed your book. Thanks for a great story. Also, thanks for doing the interview. Not too often I am able to get an officer who has actually been on the force to do to an interview with me. So, I am so glad you chose us as one of your stops to be with. Continue to stay safe out there.
Thanks for serving your community,
Pat & Char
Great interview. I am a big fan of Mike O'Keefe's work and I'm lookig forward to his next one.
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